Profit.FM (Auto Blog Blueprint Upgrade) Release Date Set for January 18, 2012

[Mike Johnson]

Actually it will be $27 per month for ABB Members which is actually criminal on my part but I convinced Gary to do it.

The Lifetime will be a lot less as well. We actually haven't come to an agreement on the Lifetime yet, but it will definitely be a lot less than $497.

Mike

[Timoy]

Mike the reason I said $20 or less is because you offer 50% commissions. Therefore you make roughly $23.50 (before ClickBank fees) on sales made by affiliates. My thinking was then by offering it to ABB members you are giving us a better deal then your affiliates. So selling it to ABB members for $27 you will actually be making more money from ABB member sales then you will from affiliate sales.

Jeff C

[tomarto]

re jeff>

Thanks for commenting but those prices are actually not the price for ABB members. Those are what everyone else will be paying. Right now thanks to it being right after Christmas and a couple of medical emergency this month as much as I would love to grab a lifetime membership it just is not going to happen. I will be joining as long as the monthly for ABB members comes in at $20 or lower.

come on jeff.$..27 is really generious ...and when your money comes in you can up gradeto life time.

mike says
"The Lifetime will be a lot less as well. We actually haven't come to an agreement on the Lifetime yet, but it will definitely be a lot less than $497."

mike and gary have bills to pay and this has got to be good for them .....

the real market value for lifetime is 497
say a big 40% discount{on 500} (200)
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this gives life time fee $ 297
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this is may be do-able but i think unfare so realistically 297+50= 347 is what i would put forward as reasonable lifetime one off deal..
for ABB members...

[Mike Johnson]

WP Supervisor was never completed. I had my developers work on it for 8 months and in the end it didn't work. I spent $20,000+ on development and lost it all. Manage.FM is a new product and is not WP Supervisor. It costs us quite a bit per user to run it, so seeing how much we can offer for what price was tough. In the end, we priced it as low as we possibly could. Right now, affiliates will be making more from Profit.FM then we will and its because of how expensive this entire product was to build. Every plugin, service, even the website and member area, hundreds of themes, 3rd party plugins we are adding, etc, Niche.FM which is just like another 24/7 "Niche" product being sold for $77 per month.

All this and the training which will be added to every month. $47 per month for all of that, to me is a steal and we have been told by some big Guru's that we should be offering this as a $997 package and not as low as we are. My thought process is the same as its always been. I want to provide value to people so they can actually build a business. I feel this product is it and you can Auto Blog with all the tools we are giving you as well. You probably spent more on WSO's and coffee at Starbucks this month than you will to have a membership at Profit.FM.

But here's the catch, ABB Members will only have to pay $27 per month which is almost criminal. Most people don't continue to try to take care of their customers like this, but I try to. I hope you can appreciate the effort I have put here for the last few years. Not very many memberships stay around even 1/10th as long.

Mike

[Mike Johnson]

The math is basically the same minus one or 2 dollars. Our costs per Member remain the same. Plus, Sorry guys, but we are not pricing this on based on what we pay affiliates. We are not selling this to Affiliates, we are paying them to promote it. In 60 days we are evaluating if we should raise the price to $67 because we consider this to have that much value. This is also why we will only offer the $27 deal to ABB Members for 14 days. Either through our $47 price or our $27 price to you, we are only actually making a very small amount. This is why we hope for a lot of sales by offering this at a ridiculously low price. We are over delivering on this product like crazy.

Mike

[Mike Johnson]

re jeff>

Thanks for commenting but those prices are actually not the price for ABB members. Those are what everyone else will be paying. Right now thanks to it being right after Christmas and a couple of medical emergency this month as much as I would love to grab a lifetime membership it just is not going to happen. I will be joining as long as the monthly for ABB members comes in at $20 or lower.

come on jeff.$..27 is really generious ...and when your money comes in you can up gradeto life time.

mike says
"The Lifetime will be a lot less as well. We actually haven't come to an agreement on the Lifetime yet, but it will definitely be a lot less than $497."

mike and gary have bills to pay and this has got to be good for them .....

the real market value for lifetime is 497
say a big 40% discount{on 500} (200)
------------------------------------------------

this gives life time fee $ 297
----------------------------------------------

this is may be do-able but i think unfare so realistically 297+50= 347 is what i would put forward as reasonable lifetime one off deal..
for ABB members...

You are in the right ballpark, but we are still haggling over it. Probably on the lower end of what you are saying, but I can't and won't say until I have a definitely answer for you guys.

*On another note, my hosting company said all the Malware is out of the forum and I closed the security breach by upgrading to the latest version of vBulletin.

Mike

[patsfanxxx]

Without a doubt this program is a steal and over the top, period... As I said before, look what Mage cost and look what crap is out there. People are begging for a rock solid business plan AND the integrity of it's developers. I think it's safe to say that Mike and Gary need no introduction.... I also read in Website magazine the changes and attitude in affiliate marketing in 2012. The homework has been done for us, now it's time to get to work.

[JeffC]

First and foremost I want to make it very clear that I have NEVER questioned that Mike gives 110% and then some on all the products he has offered. That is why I own everyone of them (at least I think I do). That is also why I will be subscribing to Profit.fm for at least a month to test it and see what all is included.

I am also aware that Mike and Gary have bills to pay and knowing the cost involved in projects like this. I would assume they are going to be lucky to profit $5 to $10 per member. I was simply pointing out:

1) I was disappointed in the fact that there will be NO tools included in what is offered to ABB members for free. I did not at any point in time say I did not understand why they are doing this.

2) That at $27 per month it is actually cheaper to join via my own affiliate link then to join as an ABB member. Now I am not planing on doing that as I feel Mike and Gary have earned my respect that if they do not allow folks to join through their own ClickBank link then I won't.

3) WP Supervisor was going to be made available to ABB members for free. This added to my disappointment above. I was under the assumption that Manage.FM was a continuation of WP Supervisor. Mike has clarified this and I appreciate that.

On a personal note to Mike, I hope you understand my side of this. I meant no desrespect to you. I have always had the utmost respect for you as a marketer and was not trying to question your motives but rather the means.

Jeff C.

[djtexas]

Mike,

Is manage.fm a white label version of managewp? If so, I can save money when this new product is launched by cancelling that membership
how many sites will included in the manage.fm membership?

David

PS. managewp is awesome by the way.

[EvanH]

Hey guys,

I think Mike has added too much value for ABB and the new Profit.FM. $27 per month for Profit.FM Pro version is very cheap and a steal for us comparing to those $97 price-rate membership sites. I believe Mike will add more and more great training and tools for us month by month in the Profit.FM Pro version, so I don't care whether the lifetime fee is $297 or $347 for our ABB members, I'll absolutely jump on this one too. Thanks, ,Mike!